O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

First, Adam was told, “Cursed shall be the ground for thy sake,” which meant for his benefit, and “by the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread.”3 Work is a continual burden, but it is also a continual blessing “for [our] sake,” for it teaches lessons wecan learn only “by the sweat of [our] face.”  this quote I received in a speech given by L. Whitney clayton of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.. delivered during the General Conferce of the before mentioned church in October - 2009...... .I hope that helps

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Eschaton Adam had a face to face with His Father in the garden and as you know He accepted His assignment to τελειόω the hardest work of all time. This caused Him to sweat as it were drops of blood just accepting the task of putting the old covenant man to death. Since He had perfected the old man under law, the curse had no hold on Him. He had to volunteer to take it on. He afterward started a new covenant creation between God and human. So we are not cursed under Adam. The faithful dead old covenant man was resurrected into a new creation. There is only one covenant between God and man. So I agree with you that the old covenant curse was for our benefit but the new covenant trials are blessed because no one goes to the old covenant place of the dead anymore. It doesn't exist. The one and only new covenant grants the life of the new husbandman just as everyone under the old man inherited the death. 

John 4:34

ECB Yah Shua words to them, My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to complete/shalam his work.

The Creator entered His creation to mature His 6th day work in Adam and take His people into His sabbath rest.

     what's the difference between: working for the blessing because of the curse for covenant breach  -- vs -- "tending the garden" as a covenantal duty out of agape walking in the presence of abba?  

    perhaps this is why there's a choice between difference covenant administrations?  one for those who wish to stay under the curse of adam where the blessing is thru work... and another for those who choose "jubilee" and return to what adam lost when expelled from the garden -- i.e. thru new birth ("water and the spirit", John 3:3,5) so one might enter into a new spiritual kingdom?

     so, yes it is true that the "actual meaning of scripture" (i.e. what was written because of transgression) is how man can find blessing thru work because of man's covenant breach of the original grant in the first sacred (covenantal) trust.  yet, wouldn't the "actual meaning of new covenant doctrine" be entrance into a new, better sacred trust where the "work was finished" by the "deed" of the promised anointed/messiah? 

     seems the choice is in how one choses to serve:   what covenant does one desires to be accountable under?


Is there an actual question in this post?

    are you offering to help scott m colle find answers?  in answer to the question "What is your Eschatological Position ?" scott replied: "I await More Signs of the Second and Triumphant Arrival of the Lord Jesus Chris" (his spelling)

   I love it when people offer answers, but disappointed when they fail to clarify what exactly they were offering to answer.  but the good news is it gives one an opportunity to ask more (great book, btw, "ask more: questions that open doors".  let me share some notes from that book to help form some better questions (see attached):

* what about people who do not want to connect?

* How do you build bridges to people who are suspicious or distrustful, resentful or worse?

* What happens when someone you want to draw out doesn’t want to talk?

     your chances of getting someone to talk will be improved if you ask the right questions in the right way—if you build bridges. You need to know:

* What’s going on?

* What are they thinking?

* Do we have a problem?

ps:  one could blame "social media" for people's inability to build bridges, which is why i also heartily recommend "deep work" by Dr. Cal Newport:

FULL audiobook:



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How the Olivet Discourse was fulfilled in the first century.
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