O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
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I don't want to sound unkind but maybe Kangaroo Jack should take a few more weeks to study.
He says "my research for this debate over the past few weeks has led me to a different conclusion about the meaning of the expression "first heaven and earth."
Maybe in another week or two he'll convert to CC .
I'm not very familiar with how written debates work but it seems Jack's first post is mostly a negative and I was under the impression it was to be his "resolve"
I also noticed he stated "I will be negating the Covenant Creationist premise that heaven and earth is Israel."
How could he miss that?
One last thing Allyn could you explain to me what he meant by the following statement.I honestly can't tell if he had it deleted or the judge did on her own and if so why?
"ATTENTION ALL: My resolve which appeared immediately above and is now deleted per my request underwent a change in form when it was posted by the judge. This makes me very unhappy. Therefore, I reproduce it word for word uneditedso you can read it in the form in which I intended it to be read."
Is he saying the judge changed it?
I told the good folk at BibleWheel that I was not taking sides in this debate and Roo was surprised at that and PM'd me saying such. My position is that I deal with the Scriptures through my own personal study and if my conclusions line up on one side or the other then that is all it amounts to. Having said that I did notice, John, what you are pointing out here. I think that this is a great admission on his part and shows the flexibility he is allowing himself to participate in which, who knows, may bring him to your side. But the important thing is that we study God's word for all the gusto we can. My online motto is to enjoy God's word wherever it takes me in my adventure in faith.
I appreciate the thoughts here and it is a priviledge for me to host the debate at Live By Truth.
I have posted my rebuttal to KangarooJack's "very well stated and clearly presented affimitive."
Checking in on the development of this debate...
This one's going to be a great resource for the future development of Covenant Creation within Covenant Eschatology. Thanks for your diligent work dealing with your opponent, Jeff! Nice work.
Are you kidding me?
Has the opponent of Covenant Creation up and quit this debate midway through? Sure looks like it to me. Unbelievable.
You know, this is uncanny. I know of 3 formal debates over Covenant Creation in the last few years. In all three debates, the opponent to Covenant Creation quit the debate and did not finish the stated number of responses. Just up and left.
Tim and Jeff,
I am honored to know you guys. CC is going to shift the discussion in such profound ways that the bedrock of modern exchatological debate will change to try to attack CC. I think it will be perceived as heresy, and the threat it presents to the established church will be vehemently fought against.
I hate to say this, but history proves it to be so. What people cannot understand they attack. When debates are given up (as in this case) it is a sign that the players against CC have met their match and predictably will begin to send personal attacks out.
Be prepared for it to get ugly and personal.