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What Covenant Creation Isn't

At the end of 2007, Tim Martin and I published the 3rd edition of Beyond Creation Science.  This is the edition is which we first defined and developed Covenant Creation.  Before this, only one conference paper had been issued on the subject.Imagine our surprise, while the book was still at the printer, Ed Stevens had published in the Dec. 2007 issue of Fulfilled Magazine a critique of Covenant Creation.  …See More
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Internet_Troll commented on JL Vaughn's blog post What was Adam's Death?
"I agree too that in Revelation, the tree of life is Christ but I was asking about the tree of life in Genesis. I am looking for a means by which the whole story can be decrypted so that I understand it. Currently I cant find a reason why God would…"
Jul 25
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How Many People Were on the Ark?

Everybody knows that there were eight people saved by Noah's ark.  But what we typically fail to realize is that some people don't count.  Servants for instance.I'd like to compare two events, Noah's Flood and Jacob's travel to Egypt, to show that the ancients counted people differently than we do today.  In our more egalitarian society, we try to count everybody.  Everybody counts.But was this true in ancient times?  Did they really care how many servants they had?In Genesis 6:18, "But I will…See More
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JL Vaughn commented on JL Vaughn's blog post What was Adam's Death?
"I believe "live forever" is the first reference to what in the New Testament is called "eternal life."It isn't physical life.  It is life in Christ.In Revelation, the Tree of Life is Christ."
Jul 19
Internet_Troll commented on JL Vaughn's blog post What was Adam's Death?
"Im curious Jeff if you have worked out what the tree of life was? I find it intruging because of this verse: Gen 3:22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his…"
Jul 19
davo commented on JL Vaughn's blog post What was Adam's Death?
"Fortunately, running with a thought of your other article… these “sons of God” were not devoid of the servants too."
Jul 19
davo commented on JL Vaughn's blog post How Many People Were on the Ark?
"Maybe somewhat implicit in the account could also be the thought… the number *eight* is generally associated with the beginning of a new era, or a new order, aka a new creation."
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What is your denomination ?
Christian Church/Church of Christ
"About Me"
Found true love, married her young.
Five kids, six cars, seven computers.
Will do math / physics for food.
Prefer equations three pages or longer.
Second Coming? Been there. Done that.
The whole land, not whole planet.
Do you have a favorite theologian ?
Milton Terry
What is your Eschatological Position ?
Covenant Eschatology, Covenant Creation, I'm so Covenantal my CoC friends think I turning Presbyterian

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What Covenant Creation Isn't

Posted on August 15, 2017 at 1:45pm 0 Comments

At the end of 2007, Tim Martin and I published the 3rd edition of Beyond Creation Science.  This is the edition is which we first defined and developed Covenant Creation.  Before this, only one conference paper had been issued on the subject.



Imagine our surprise, while the book was still at the printer, Ed Stevens had published in the Dec. 2007 issue of Fulfilled Magazine a critique of Covenant Creation.  …

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What was Adam's Death?

Posted on July 18, 2017 at 2:13pm 4 Comments

Adam was promised the death for eating from the Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil.  What kind of death was it?



Some say this death was physical death.  Some say this death was spiritual death.  And some say this death was spiritual death followed by physical death 900-some years later.



Physical Death:



Some believe Adam was created immortal, that, had Adam not sinned, he would never die.  Does this make…

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How Many People Were on the Ark?

Posted on July 17, 2017 at 9:17pm 2 Comments

Everybody knows that there were eight people saved by Noah's ark.  But what we typically fail to realize is that some people don't count.  Servants for instance.



I'd like to compare two events, Noah's Flood and Jacob's travel to Egypt, to show that the ancients counted people differently than we do today.  …



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Who was Adam in Genesis 6?

Posted on February 12, 2015 at 1:00pm 46 Comments

In the previous article http://deathisdefeated.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-problem-of-context-in-the-genealogy-of-genesis-5?xg_source=activity, we established that the flood account was embedded in the Genesis 5 genealogy.  That genealogy ended with the last two verses of Genesis 9.



In Genesis 6, the embedded account starts with



1 Now it…

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The Problem of Context in the Genealogy of Genesis 5

Posted on February 12, 2015 at 11:50am 15 Comments

We rarely read things in the Bible in their proper context.  Part of this has to do with the chapter and verse divisions.  I’d like for everyone to read this extended text from Genesis straight through starting near the end of Genesis 4, all the way to my chosen end.



You will notice, in Genesis 4 that we have the birth of Seth and Enosh.  The first two verses of tell us a bit about Adam (the meaning of these two verses is not germane to…

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Comment Wall (39 comments)

At 8:02pm on October 5, 2008, John said…
Welcome JL,
Looking forward to some great discussions.
At 10:02am on October 11, 2008, Stephen Douglas said…
"Tim Martin and JL Vaughn are now friends Oct 9"

Sheesh, it's about time!
At 9:34pm on October 17, 2008, James Kessler said…
Sory JL. I didn't mean to sound so formal. It was mostly my way of respecting my elders :-)

Blessing my friend,

Jim
At 10:01pm on December 27, 2008, Norm said…
Jeff,

Sam is listed and he should have been aware of the aprx dates of truthvoice. It appears by looking at the topics that there may be a desire to offer a different perspective than what truthvoice provides.

This would possibly be especially true of Dr. Birks as I believe he is very uncomfortable with recent Genesis positions coming out of Preterism. It will be interesting to see how he and Sam Frost interact on the “corporate body” discussion concerning Adam in Genesis. They are on opposing sides of the argument. They are most likely together on a global flood though. I also see it possibly as an attempt to strengthen the Reformed side of Preterism around some of Birks and Sam’s commonly held positions.

That is what I’m reading between the lines at the moment until we get further clarification.

Norm
At 1:54am on January 14, 2009, Brian Maxwell said…
Thanks for the Welcome!
At 12:05pm on January 15, 2009, Charles Shank said…
Thanks for the add, Jeff; I'm looking forward to an edifying and glorifying time here!
At 3:41pm on January 17, 2009, Tami said…
Hey, Jeff! Nice job on the "Fulfilled" magazine article! Just got my copy in the mail today.
At 7:17pm on June 16, 2009, Tami said…
Hey there, how's it going?

:)
At 1:42pm on July 1, 2009, Prabhu Das said…
Greetings from Tenali. How are you brother?
At 2:36pm on July 1, 2009, Prabhu Das said…
Brother JL Vaughn,

I'm very sorry to hear of your mother-in-law's passing away

Yah, I finish reading it (and like to read one more time). And I also shared a copy with Marnatha Bible College and Lotch Library with the intention to reach and educate many. Recently also I was contacted by Br. Stephen to teach these preterist concepts at his bible school. I’m very interested, but I was totally helpless to provide both of our conveyance.

Victor Suman is very young…I think he needs some time to dig into these advanced concepts.

We are just fine! Thanks for asking.

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