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JL Vaughn commented on JL Vaughn's blog post Beyond Creation Science, 4th edition
"Eohn, Thank-you for your kind comments.  I don't know if we are ever going to get around to that 4th edition."Are you addressing the great commission of Adam to tame the animals who were created with living and blessed souls prior to…"
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Eohn Rhodes commented on JL Vaughn's blog post Beyond Creation Science, 4th edition
"I bought a copy at a Don Preston conference in Huntsville, Texas 2003 and it revolutionized my thinking. I am looking forward to the progressive thinking from both of you. Are you addressing the great commission of Adam to tame the animals who were…"
Dec 1
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Beyond Creation Science, 4th edition

All,The 3rd edition of Beyond Creation Science is almost 5 years old.  It's past time to start on a new edition.Tim and I plan to start on the new edition this winter and post the chapters one at a time as they are finished.The basic structure of the first four chapters of the book will remain unchanged, but these chapters do have things we need to fix.  Beyond that, we will wait and see.Any comments, the more specific the better, please email to me.  I'd appreciate reference to either page…See More
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What Covenant Creation Isn't

At the end of 2007, Tim Martin and I published the 3rd edition of Beyond Creation Science.  This is the edition is which we first defined and developed Covenant Creation.  Before this, only one conference paper had been issued on the subject.Imagine our surprise, while the book was still at the printer, Ed Stevens had published in the Dec. 2007 issue of Fulfilled Magazine a critique of Covenant Creation.  …See More
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JL Vaughn commented on JL Vaughn's blog post What was Adam's death?
"Okay.  Thanks."
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Eohn Rhodes commented on JL Vaughn's blog post What was Adam's death?
"Jeff, sorry I can't find it. Maybe it was a reference attached to one of his sermons."
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JL Vaughn replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Gen 1 vs Isa 51
"Troll,Preterism has taught for at least 20 years that Adam's curse in Genesis 3 was a covenant judgment.This implies that the covenant began before Genesis 3."
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What is your denomination ?
Christian Church/Church of Christ
"About Me"
Found true love, married her young.
Five kids, six cars, seven computers.
Will do math / physics for food.
Prefer equations three pages or longer.
Second Coming? Been there. Done that.
The whole land, not whole planet.
Do you have a favorite theologian ?
Milton Terry
What is your Eschatological Position ?
Covenant Eschatology, Covenant Creation, I'm so Covenantal my CoC friends think I turning Presbyterian

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The Fundamentalist Hermeneutic vs. a Conservative Hermeneutic

Posted on December 16, 2017 at 4:30pm 0 Comments

It is easy to overlook the importance of hermeneutic principles in any theological discussion. (Our English word “hermeneutics” comes from the Greek word hermeneuo which means “to interpret.” Hermeneutics is the art and science of interpretation.) Most disagreements over biblical interpretation arise when two people with different hermeneutic assumptions look at a text of Scripture and come to different conclusions. The differences do not come from the text itself. Both people read the same…

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What was Adam's death?

Posted on December 8, 2017 at 6:30pm 14 Comments

What was Adam's death?

Adam was promised the death for eating from the Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil. What kind of death was it?

Some say this death was physical death. Some say this death was spiritual death. And some say this death was spiritual death followed by physical death 900-some years later.

Physical Death:

Some believe Adam was created immortal, that, had Adam not sinned, he would never die. Does this make any sense?

Before Adam sinned,…

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What Covenant Creation Isn't

Posted on August 15, 2017 at 1:45pm 0 Comments

At the end of 2007, Tim Martin and I published the 3rd edition of Beyond Creation Science.  This is the edition is which we first defined and developed Covenant Creation.  Before this, only one conference paper had been issued on the subject.



Imagine our surprise, while the book was still at the printer, Ed Stevens had published in the Dec. 2007 issue of Fulfilled Magazine a critique of Covenant Creation.  …

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What was Adam's Death?

Posted on July 18, 2017 at 2:13pm 4 Comments

Adam was promised the death for eating from the Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil.  What kind of death was it?



Some say this death was physical death.  Some say this death was spiritual death.  And some say this death was spiritual death followed by physical death 900-some years later.



Physical Death:



Some believe Adam was created immortal, that, had Adam not sinned, he would never die.  Does this make…

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How Many People Were on the Ark?

Posted on July 17, 2017 at 9:17pm 2 Comments

Everybody knows that there were eight people saved by Noah's ark.  But what we typically fail to realize is that some people don't count.  Servants for instance.



I'd like to compare two events, Noah's Flood and Jacob's travel to Egypt, to show that the ancients counted people differently than we do today.  …



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Comment Wall (39 comments)

At 8:02pm on October 5, 2008, John said…
Welcome JL,
Looking forward to some great discussions.
At 10:02am on October 11, 2008, Stephen Douglas said…
"Tim Martin and JL Vaughn are now friends Oct 9"

Sheesh, it's about time!
At 9:34pm on October 17, 2008, James Kessler said…
Sory JL. I didn't mean to sound so formal. It was mostly my way of respecting my elders :-)

Blessing my friend,

Jim
At 10:01pm on December 27, 2008, Norm said…
Jeff,

Sam is listed and he should have been aware of the aprx dates of truthvoice. It appears by looking at the topics that there may be a desire to offer a different perspective than what truthvoice provides.

This would possibly be especially true of Dr. Birks as I believe he is very uncomfortable with recent Genesis positions coming out of Preterism. It will be interesting to see how he and Sam Frost interact on the “corporate body” discussion concerning Adam in Genesis. They are on opposing sides of the argument. They are most likely together on a global flood though. I also see it possibly as an attempt to strengthen the Reformed side of Preterism around some of Birks and Sam’s commonly held positions.

That is what I’m reading between the lines at the moment until we get further clarification.

Norm
At 1:54am on January 14, 2009, Brian Maxwell said…
Thanks for the Welcome!
At 12:05pm on January 15, 2009, Charles Shank said…
Thanks for the add, Jeff; I'm looking forward to an edifying and glorifying time here!
At 3:41pm on January 17, 2009, Tami said…
Hey, Jeff! Nice job on the "Fulfilled" magazine article! Just got my copy in the mail today.
At 7:17pm on June 16, 2009, Tami said…
Hey there, how's it going?

:)
At 1:42pm on July 1, 2009, Prabhu Das said…
Greetings from Tenali. How are you brother?
At 2:36pm on July 1, 2009, Prabhu Das said…
Brother JL Vaughn,

I'm very sorry to hear of your mother-in-law's passing away

Yah, I finish reading it (and like to read one more time). And I also shared a copy with Marnatha Bible College and Lotch Library with the intention to reach and educate many. Recently also I was contacted by Br. Stephen to teach these preterist concepts at his bible school. I’m very interested, but I was totally helpless to provide both of our conveyance.

Victor Suman is very young…I think he needs some time to dig into these advanced concepts.

We are just fine! Thanks for asking.

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