"Thanks Davo,
Quiet interesting and exciting to realise that my thoughts are not perculiar to me. I somehow didnt get a preterist feel to the articles and wonder about the authors eschatological views.I think these questions of mine are more…"
O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
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Adam as Israel
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I have been thinking about the following two issues:1) Israel going into captivity was their death, implying they were alife before then. The parousia was resurrection from Adam's death yet was the…Continue
Though he dies yet shall he live
Started this discussion. Last reply by Boyardee Apr 25. 8 Replies 0 Likes
John 11:25-26 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.…Continue
The parousia and judgment of nations
Started this discussion. Last reply by Dustin Curlee Apr 24. 15 Replies 0 Likes
How were other nations judged at the parousia? It easy to see how Jerusalem was judged, what of other nations?In particular 2 Thes 1:7 talks about those who troubled the Thessalonians being punished.…Continue
The 10 Tribes of Israel
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Today I learnt something new and amazing... at least to me.I always thought all Israel went into Babylonian captivity but today I learned "no" the 10 tribes went to Syria.Now I am wondering:1) was…Continue
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"Thank Patricia,
As I indicated, this was not just an innocent question but one with a catch to it. Thus having two option either that Adam was a real person or that the story about Adam is actually about Israel, which veiw holds more sway. Thats…"
Patricia Watkins replied to Boyardee's discussion Adam as Israel"Hi Boyardee,
Certainly, no one could possibly deny that Israel killed God's messengers directly. Their continual history of doing so was brought up by Stephen's Acts 7:52 testimony, ("Which of the prophets did not…"
"Hi Patricia
I hear where you are coming from but at the moment seems a bit of a stretch. I look at the parables of Jesus and I see the guilt of Israel being of actually killing God's messangers directly. But will keep that option at the back…"
Patricia Watkins replied to Boyardee's discussion Adam as Israel"Hi Boyardee,
Here's my 2 cents contribution toward your second point. Remember, it's not just all the blood shed from Abel - it's particularly all the righteous blood shed from Abel to Zacharias. These…"
Adam as Israel
I have been thinking about the following two issues:1) Israel going into captivity was their death, implying they were alife before then. The parousia was resurrection from Adam's death yet was the expectation of Israel to return from exile.2) Jesus in Matt 23 said Jerusalem would be guilty of all the blood shed from Abel. Now how and why would God hold Jerusalem for the blood of Abel?I have been thinking that maybe Adam is actually Israel. Implying the creation story is post exilic and is…See More
"How can we differentiate life within Canaan against the exile.
I considered going into exile as Israel's death from which they needed to return i.e. resurrection."
Dustin Curlee replied to Boyardee's discussion Though he dies yet shall he live"Boyardee,
No one was alive covenantally. All (Israel) had died in the Adamic body. But their transgressions were passed over via the sacrifices.
Dustin..."
"Thanks guys, it very clear now.
I am however still curious as to whether anyone could be deemed covenantally alive before AD70
e.g. before Israel sin, the sin leading to exile, were they covenantally alive?"
Dustin Curlee replied to Boyardee's discussion Though he dies yet shall he live"Verse 25 is speaking to a person dying biologically. Those they die biologically, yet they will still live."
"Thanks Dustin
The point I am not clear is whether Jesus referes to physical death or covenantal death i.e. which death is He referring to in verse 25 "... though he were dead"
Im also having difficulty with various version as to what…"
Dustin Curlee replied to Boyardee's discussion The parousia and judgment of nations"Les,
I agree. And that was my point regarding the whole house of Israel (2 tribes, respectively) in that they were all nations. Apparently I didn't convey it well enough.
Be that as it may, the covenant judgment and the "nations"…"
"Hello Dustin. You have a good understanding of the 'House of Israel; and the 'House of Judah' split. But also consider that each 'Tribe' (12) was also 'a' nation. Ephraim and Manasseh had The 'Birthright'…"
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- At 4:05pm on May 13, 2013,
John said… Welcome Jefrey!
- At 6:50pm on May 29, 2013,
Eohn Rhodes said… Doug W
IMO the covenant with Adam as head completely ended AD 70. The same covenant still exists with a different head. Adam's job was to sway all flesh families not just his own. He fell and God renewed the covenant with the first sacrifice. Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Moses all renewed covenant and became major players in God's plan to make human in his image. Jesus became the completed image of God in a human(same word as Adam). His final covenant renewal changed heads.
Colossians 2:9 In him is dwelling the filling of the deity bodily. 2:10 And ya'll are in him who has been filled, who is the head of every original and authority.
@2:22 leave the teachings of the humans concerning unclean things, foods and holy days because they were a shadow and the reality is in the anointed Jesus. loose paraphrase
Noah was not descended from Abraham, wasn't he in the resurrection? After Moses was preached in every city because the descendants of Abraham were scattered into the four kingdoms of Daniel the whole known world was invited to be born again into God's family. The four original flesh families are represented in Peter's vision of the sheet. The non humans were all invited into the newized covenant in spite of Peter's reluctance to let us into his family. I'm his brother and there is nothing he can do about it.
- At 10:32pm on March 16, 2016,
Stairway To Heaven said… The meaning of the Second Death
Source :
http://dodsianchurch.blogspot.co.id/2014/05/the-meaning-of-second-death-part-1.html
The meaning of the Second Death, part 2
Source :
http://dodsianchurch.blogspot.co.id/2015/02/the-meaning-of-second-death-part-2.html
The meaning of the Second Death, part 3
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http://dodsianchurch.blogspot.co.id/2014/05/the-meaning-of-second-death-part-3.html
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