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Gen 1 vs Isa 51

Started this discussion. Last reply by Internet_Troll May 3. 4 Replies

I am trying to pin point when the law was given and when the old covenant begun. This is proving somewhat problematic for me.So from 2 Pet 3:5,7 and Rev 21:1 it seems clear that the coming of the New…Continue

The sin of the Gentiles

Started this discussion. Last reply by Brother Les Jan 18. 3 Replies

Acts 26:18  to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are…Continue

Musings about IBD vs CBV

Started Jun 20, 2017 0 Replies

I have gotten some exposure (following Davo's suggestion) on the Individual Body view (IBD) of the resurrection opposed to the Corporate Body view (CBV).What I have figured is that all preterists…Continue

Adam as Israel

Started this discussion. Last reply by Internet_Troll Nov 5, 2017. 9 Replies

I have been  thinking about the following two issues:1) Israel going into captivity was their death, implying they were alife before then. The parousia was resurrection from Adam's death yet was the…Continue

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Brother Les replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Hello Patricia, Forgive me for my insulting and degrading words from past posts, they were uncalled for and I apologize. 1) AD 59 for the date of the Revelation seems to be very close. I have read where some people believe that it was written before…"
yesterday
Patricia Watkins replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Hi again Brother Les, Don't have too much time here...got a rush job on the table I really should be working on...no retirement for me quite yet... My firm conviction based on internal evidence in Revelation compared with other scriptures and…"
yesterday
Doug replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Hello Patricia,   No worries.   Since this debate is about (as you indicate) two things: 1. Is the resurrection (in particular the resurrection of "the saints" in Mt. 27) physical, and 2. How many resurrections are…"
yesterday
Brother Les replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"The title of the thread is Resurrection. you look(ed) for three Bodily Resurrection(s) What is your belief of when Revelation was written? Rev 10:4 does not say that what the noise of the thunders was a future prophecy. And he was told…"
yesterday
Patricia Watkins replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Hi Doug, I have always appreciated your diplomatic approach on this forum.  Blessed are the peacemakers.  Apologies if it seems this has gone off in a multitude of directions that has made your head spin.   But after all, the crux of…"
yesterday
Doug replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Hey Patricia and Les, I've got no dogs in the fight, but as an observer, it seems you are both talking around each other. This isn't a 100% he's right/she's right debate. As I see it, there is a little error in both of your…"
Thursday
Brother Les replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Hello Patricia... I am sure that you have heard/read of the Apostle Peter speaking at Pentecost Acts 2:1. He says some very interesting things about King David. David said that "'The Lord', would not leave his soul in…"
Thursday
Brother Les replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Patricia, Slow you are. Jesus talked about 'This Age (Mosaic) and Age to Come (Messianic). There were many 'Ages' before the Mosaic Age. Never said that there were not. There were even Ages Before Adam (The Man).... Slow you are.…"
Thursday
Patricia Watkins replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Hi Brother Les, Your point #1 is a pure contradiction of the Matthew 27:52-53 account.  This story about the resurrected Matt. 27 saints may be an uncomfortable one for you, but it won't go away simply because you don't want to admit…"
Thursday
Brother Les replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Patricia, You weave an interesting tale. Not Biblical at all, but interesting in your own mind. I will make this post short, as I have no time to rebut your make believe. 1. There was no Resurrection of anyone from The Death, But Joshua Messiah in…"
Thursday
Patricia Watkins replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Hi IT guy, You had some simplified questions, since what I wrote apparently sounded confusing to you.  You wrote: #1)  "Is being a son of Adam in reference to the physical body and its makeup?"  YES, in part.  But more…"
Thursday
Patricia Watkins replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Hi Brother Les, Your zeal and faithfulness to what you perceive to be true does you credit.  All God's servants should demonstrate this dedication, because He is most worthy of it.  But it is not "a zeal according to…"
Thursday
Brother Les replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Patricia, The 144,000 redeemed come into the picture at The Judgment and the End of the Mosaic Age, which happened at AD70 and The Marriage of The Bridge/Church(AD 70) not at the time of The Cross. These 144,000 were not The Saints (from all…"
Tuesday
Brother Les replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Patricia, Patricia, Patricia.... You have one or two very good points and then loaded up the rest with waaay out of context and bad audience relevance and faulty timelines. You truly have blazed a strange tale. the good points do not out weight the…"
Tuesday
Patricia Watkins replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Hi Doug, Since you asked so nicely...  :-) Sure, it's supportable from scripture for the 144,000 to be the Matt. 27:52-53 resurrected saints.  I wouldn't put this forward unless I was absolutely certain from comparing scriptures…"
Tuesday
Doug replied to Internet_Troll's discussion Resurrection
"Patricia, You stated a couple of things that are conjecture, not fact from scripture. For example, how in the world did you put the Mt. 27 saints into the role of being the 144,000? That isn't supportable. Also, you said "We legally…"
Monday

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What is your denomination ?
Pentecostal
"About Me"
Been a Christian from 1996 when I was 11, single and have a keen interest in Biblical truth.
Do you have a favorite theologian ?
Not really, probably NT Wright
What is your Eschatological Position ?
partial preterist I guess but closer to full preterism

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At 4:05pm on May 13, 2013, John said…

Welcome Jefrey!

At 6:50pm on May 29, 2013, Eohn Rhodes said…

Doug W

IMO the covenant with Adam as head completely ended AD 70. The same covenant still exists with a different head. Adam's job was to sway all flesh families not just his own. He fell and God renewed the covenant with the first sacrifice. Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Moses all renewed covenant and became major players in God's plan to make human in his image. Jesus became the completed image of God in a human(same word as Adam). His final covenant renewal changed heads.

Colossians 2:9 In him is dwelling the filling of the deity bodily. 2:10 And ya'll are in him who has been filled, who is the head of every original and authority.

@2:22 leave the teachings of the humans concerning unclean things, foods and holy days because they were a shadow and the reality is in the anointed Jesus. loose paraphrase 

Noah was not descended from Abraham, wasn't he in the resurrection? After Moses was preached in every city because the descendants of Abraham were scattered into the four kingdoms of Daniel the whole known world was invited to be born again into God's family. The four original flesh families are represented in Peter's vision of the sheet. The non humans were all invited into the newized covenant in spite of Peter's reluctance to let us into his family. I'm his brother and there is nothing he can do about it.

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Isaiah 2:2-4 Used to refute preterism

Started by Steve G. in Eschatology. Last reply by Patricia Watkins on Monday. 1 Reply

This Site Active?

Started by Doug in Eschatology. Last reply by Patricia Watkins Jul 29. 28 Replies

Gen 1 vs Isa 51

Started by Internet_Troll in Eschatology. Last reply by Internet_Troll May 3. 4 Replies

Adam as Israel

Started by Internet_Troll in Eschatology. Last reply by Internet_Troll Nov 5, 2017. 9 Replies

Though he dies yet shall he live

Started by Internet_Troll in Questions and Best Answers We Can Give!. Last reply by Internet_Troll Apr 25, 2017. 8 Replies

The parousia and judgment of nations

Started by Internet_Troll in Eschatology. Last reply by Joseph Rehby Jul 6, 2017. 16 Replies

Preterist Networking

Started by Judy Peterson in Prayer Requests. Last reply by Judy Peterson Apr 8. 21 Replies

The 10 Tribes of Israel

Started by Internet_Troll in Questions and Best Answers We Can Give!. Last reply by Judith Ann Maness Aug 4. 10 Replies

Online Teaching Elders

Started by Eohn Rhodes in Eschatology. Last reply by Doug Dec 22, 2015. 4 Replies

Who is the abomination of desolation ?

Started by Stairway To Heaven in Eschatology. Last reply by Brother Les Dec 11, 2015. 3 Replies

Divine council

Started by Sharon Q in Eschatology. Last reply by Sharon Q Oct 3, 2015. 5 Replies

Marriage and Divorce Motif Between God and Israel

Started by Andrew Reish in Eschatology. Last reply by Brother Les Jul 5, 2015. 5 Replies

Millennium

Started by Mark Baker in Eschatology. Last reply by Internet_Troll May 4, 2015. 48 Replies

Fulfilled prophecies of Jesus

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