Millennium I want to say first I am not opposed to a past millennium in fact if I could be convinced of it, it would be much cleaner eschatological paradigm. The text of the book of Revelation…Continue
"Amazon has the book. There are a couple of ways to look at 70 A.D. and Rome. Fist older commentaries say Greece was the fourth empire not Rome and that Rome in Rev. is all four put together. Also after 70 there was no widespread persecution of…"
Where can I find the book?
But in the meanwhile what is answer to the Roman Empire existing way part AD70 yet in Revelation and in Daniel the statue was destroyed by the stone and the beast destroyed which seem to indicate an end to the…"
"Russell says the Beast is Nero and deputy in Judea. The armies being in the unseen realm. Gessius Florus goaded the Jews to revolt he also met with a violent death like Nero. I think we have to read these events in regards to the fall of Jerusalem…"
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Who do you find the beast and armies in Rev 19 to be? These were destroyed just before the beginning of the millennium.
Who do you find the Devil to be, who was bound…"
Would just like to thank you for your ministry. I feel the whole discussion has clarified things for me and given a much more solid foundation on which to base further study. Very satisfying. Thank you.
Yes, of course your point that Christ…"
"Thanks for you input. I think you are making some assumption as to my thinking. I do not believe Christ reign ends. The loosing of Satan will and his demise will end human history just like the many judgements in history ended something like 70 A.D.…"
Here is your argument and exegesis which I found excellent.
Here is my issue there are several future tenses to Christ and the saints ruling over the nations. 3:21, 5:10, 12:5 Which says he is about to reign.
The 1000 Years in Revelation is…"
"Intersting thoughts. I have read Terry and think Russell does a better job. What this all comes down to is ones hermeneutic and unfortunately we do not have a consistent hermeneutic with preterits they are all over the map. I think Ward Fenley has…"
Thank you for reply. I do see and agree with your evaluation of the chronology within visions seen by John, however I would just like to ask you to consider the following;
Terry would argue that there is a set of apocalyptic protocols and…"
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First I would say Russell was the most honest preterist I think who has written He did not appear to start out with a preconceived paradigm like modern FP do. Russell saw that the only way to make sense of the Millennium in…"
Thank you for explaining your view so decisively. I thought to take this opportunity to just ask your opinion on the implications of The FP View and how they are addressed in Russell's view.
What role does The Millennium play as a device…"
Excellent exegesis. I guess we can all go with that then......................
Milton S. Terry also holds the same view as you on The Millennium beginning with sacking of Jerusalem and going on.......... for an indefinite period, and…"
"Reply to stairway to Heaven; I only see a continuous narrative from 4 tom 20 I do see the I saw sections in 20-22 as concurrent except for the loosing of Satan which John does not use the I saw phrase for this section. I can not get my head around…"
"The millennial prediction (Rev. 20:2-7) seems to be referring to the relatively brief interval ( 66 years ) between the destruction of Jerusalem ( First Jewish–Roman War ) by Titus in AD70, and the destruction of Jerusalem ( Bar Kokhba Revolt…"
"The whole problem with the Millennium come down to exegesis and what the assumptions one holds too. I try not to assume a past present or future Millennium when reading the text as a whole. To me a straightforward reading from Ch. 4 to 22 moves me…"