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K1 left a comment for Norm
"You mentioned something about the everlasting 8th day and early Christians in a comment on a post by Duncan. Care to elaborate?"
Jan 6, 2015
David Brown. liked Norm's blog post "Genesis and the River of Life"
Aug 28, 2014
Norm commented on Patricia Watkins's blog post RACHEL and LEAH a once-upon-a-time story of the 2 covenants
"Eohn, Check out Heb 9 & 10. Heb 9:28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him."
Jun 8, 2014
Norm commented on Patricia Watkins's blog post RACHEL and LEAH a once-upon-a-time story of the 2 covenants
"Patricia, I see the Definition of perfect defined as follows: tel-i-o'-o From G5046; to complete, that is, (literally) accomplish, or (figuratively) consummate (in character): - consecrate, finish, fulfil, (make) perfect.   Therefore I see…"
Jun 8, 2014
Norm commented on Patricia Watkins's blog post RACHEL and LEAH a once-upon-a-time story of the 2 covenants
"Patricia,  Just as an addition Here is a little excerpt that might meet the criteria of the "two witnesses" of Rev 11.  it's from the Gospel of Nicodemus IX (XXV) which is hard to date and scares those who aren't…"
May 31, 2014
Norm commented on Patricia Watkins's blog post RACHEL and LEAH a once-upon-a-time story of the 2 covenants
"Patricia, I like the way that you are reading a lot of the scriptures and how the stories tie together. I believe that is the intent of the way they were constructed and expected to be recognized by and large. I do have to admit that I’m a bit…"
May 31, 2014
Norm commented on Tim Martin's blog post Michael Miano, Jeff Vaughn, and Tim Martin Follow Up on Ham/Nye Debate
"Eohn, A partial is one that accepts the level of evolution that one can get their mind around. As I have been stating here there is plenty of evolution regarding human evolution that is very well developed and doesn't ask you to make as…"
Feb 19, 2014
Norm commented on Tim Martin's blog post Michael Miano, Jeff Vaughn, and Tim Martin Follow Up on Ham/Nye Debate
"Eohn, Perhaps you should start out as a "partial Evolutionist" instead of a "full" evo. ;) Norm"
Feb 19, 2014

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"About Me"
Married, wife Beth doesn't work but raised our two children and is involved in Christian Counseling for women and teaches Bible classes for women.
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multiple as no one covers all the bases
What is your Eschatological Position ?
Covenant Creation Full Preterist

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“II Corinthians 5, Part III” By Sam Frost

Posted on September 24, 2013 at 10:30pm 0 Comments

I'm reposting again an article from Sam Frost that I posted over three years ago that speaks to the issue of Romans 5-8 and delves into the Corporate Body concept. There are also a multitude of discussions that follow this post that one may find interesting.  click the link at the bottom and it will take you to the full original post and discussion.


“II Corinthians 5, Part III” By Sam Frost

Posted by Norm on January 26, 2011 at 6:30pm


I have been…


The Resurrection: Corporate or Individual

Posted on August 30, 2013 at 10:14pm 97 Comments

Now for that post script I see there are questions regarding the Corporate and Individual Body usage in scripture. I wrote this little excerpt about 5 years ago in response to the same questions Ed brings up and is being discussed. I’m going to add a little more at the end to “flesh” it out just a tad more.

Subject: Re: The Resurrection: Corporate or Individual

As I have stated earlier I believe it is imperative that when introducing the “body” corporate…


Is the Tower of Babel the Jewish Temple?

Posted on March 19, 2013 at 10:00pm 13 Comments

Question for the readers here on DID,

While studying Genesis historically I have put off delving deeper into the Tower of Babel story. However now I'm beginning to see patterns that resonate with other consistent factors we see in Genesis which is prophecy. The more I study the more it is becoming apparent to me that Genesis is an indictment against temple Judaism just as Christianity concludes. I believe the pattern may be represented and drawn from the Jews experience with…


Rev 20:7-10 (Post Millennium)?

Posted on June 4, 2012 at 9:12pm 9 Comments

Recently a discussion was brought up by a good friend concerning Duncan and Doug W.’s Premillennial Preterism on a closed forum I belong to. I typically have to stay away from these detailed discussions because they require a lot of energy, thought and time to enter into intelligently.  Against my better judgment I decided to enter in even though I don’t have the time and energy I used to be able to allocate to these issues. Partially this is because I’m not giving Duncan and Doug a fair…


The Evolution of Adam: What The Bible does and Doesn’t Say About Human Origins By Pete Enns

Posted on January 16, 2012 at 1:28pm 21 Comments

I want to introduce Pete Enns newly released Book “The Evolution of Adam”: What the Bible does and doesn’t Say about Human Origins. 

This is going to be a ground breaking book in Christian circles as Pete introduces some new concepts to the evangelical crowd that seriously challenges many of their longstanding hermeneutical approaches.  I have listed the Table of Contents and Pete’s concluding 9 Thesis below to give you a…


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At 1:31pm on October 23, 2008, John said…
Hello Norm,
At 10:30pm on October 23, 2008, Tami said…
Norm, I really like the summary statement of the "prologue" framework for Genesis 1 that you posted on John's page. I especially like the way you referred specifically to the image of Christ and the Sabbath rest as culminations of creation which were prophesied from the beginning.
At 11:00pm on October 23, 2008, Tami said…

That reminds me, what I meant to add, is that I think you have the makings of an article with that paragraph. Precise articulation is so important, especially when you are trying to communicate with people who are pre-disposed to be opposed. :)

Anyway definitely hang on to that. I may even have to use it (in which case I will of course footnote you.)
At 10:12pm on December 27, 2008, JL Vaughn said…

It's also Easter weekend. A bad time for a Christian conference.

At 8:02pm on January 18, 2009, jjkratt said…
Norm, how did you get your photos into a slide show? I'm obviously not computer literate enough to do that. Oh, and you have a lovely family. :-)
At 7:01am on June 24, 2009, Patrick said…
Hey Norm....Actually I'm in SC right now. I'll be flying back on Thursday, meet with the Anestesiologist (spelling??) Friday, and Surgery on Monday. They will keep my in the hospital three days to make sure I'm not leaking spinal fluid and then I'm not sure.

Would definitely love to meet although definitely not Monday or Tuesday ;)

Oh, I'm TE also so I'm definitely comforatable with MB & SD ideas! Its hard to believe that's theres not more of 'us' around. I don't really discuss TE since I like to concentrate on the FP side of thing right now. Maybe once I work out all the eschatological questions I'll move on to that...

Nice meeting you,
At 8:24pm on July 22, 2009, Patrick said…
Hi Norm, I'm back in Houston for my radiation treatements, so I'll be here for another 7 weeks. I think you said you lived here in Houston, so if you'd like to get together sometime let me know.

At 9:23am on July 26, 2009, Patrick said…
Hey again...I meet with the radiation guys on Monday and then I'll know more about my schedule. I'll keep you updated, but would love to get together.

What church do you attend here?
At 9:56pm on August 30, 2009, Mike Sullivan said…
Hi Norm,

Not a problem. I still need to edit it a little more - not to mention there was a lot more NT passages I wanted to get in, but I didn't have a lot of time. I'll just keep it brief for now but will add to it later. I'll post here later tomorrow.

At 1:49pm on November 2, 2009, Paul Richard Strange Sr said…
Thanks so much, Norm! I spent August of 2008 studying introduction to Greek at Westminster Seminary (Dallas campus). It was a joyful braintwister! Fall of 2008 included studies at WTS (now Redeemer College) in Greek II, intro to NT, and Intro to systematic theology. This was an effort to move toward a calling to be a pastor which I am reconsidering at the present time. I have a handicapped older sister living nearby who I help as much as I can. The thrill for Jackie and me is that our 6th grandchild is almost to be delivered and our 7th is due in January 2010. I work fulltime as a Rehab Tech in the Homeless Domiciliary at the Dallas VA.

Yes, I recall enjoying many interractions on Planet Preterist. I'm not a universalist, but it was true that I was allowed to contribute anyway, which was a joy.

Zion Valley Cumberland Presbyterian Church is a small, rural congregation about an hour and 45 minutes from where I live in Waxahachie. I was serving as a "supply pastor". They cannot afford a fulltime pastor. Beautiful country folks.

You have a delightful family. I'll have to get help to post family pics. (i'm technically challenged, you might say).

This website was referred to me by Sharon Nichols. She has, like some others, felt the need to move away from full preterism. I wish her the best. One of the issues that has come up has to do with whether one sees the finished work of Christ at Calvary as sufficient for the saving of sinners, apart from the 70 a.d. coming.

What do you think?

In the King,


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