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The Millennium #3-- The Martyrs Seated on Thrones- Given White Robes!

"Okay this makes more sense.  But the video explicity equates the two periods (mill and lit season).  Maybe I am misunderstanding?"
Jun 24, 2011
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"CORRECTION, there are verses that indicate it may refer to both royal and priestly vesture.    Esth 8:15  And Mordecai went out from the presence of the king in royal apparel of blue and white, and with a great crown of gold, and with…"
Jun 24, 2011
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"Couple disagreements:   A)  The White Robes   The white robes more likely refer to the robes of the priests and not robes of royalty.  For example, John seems to allude to the dedication of the temple by Solomon in Revelation…"
Jun 24, 2011
Patrick commented on Norm's blog post The Timing of Judgment on the Nations following Judgment upon Israel
"I believe:   1)  It is the New Jerusalem that is surrounded by Gog and Magog. 2)  Magog is apostate Jerusalem/Jews and Gog their leaders. 3)  The "nations" destroyed are Magog, Babylon, Sodom, Egypt (all symbolic of…"
Apr 15, 2011
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Patrick commented on Patrick's blog post Preterism - Defining Various Positions
"Updated chart 4/5/11 based on Todd & JL's and comments.  Thanks guys."
Apr 4, 2011
Patrick commented on John's blog post Problems In the Postmillennial Eschatology by Don K. Preston
"excellent articles...liked the first one better."
Apr 4, 2011
John commented on Patrick's blog post Preterism - Defining Various Positions
"Patrick, You might want to read this article by Sam Frost "A Fresh look at 1 Thessalonians 4" Sam refutes Ed Stevens rapture theory.Here's a small snippet. Conclusion: It is in the death and resurrection of…"
Mar 28, 2011
davo commented on Patrick's blog post Preterism - Defining Various Positions
"Jeff... excellent thoughts on # “2” – it’s the very reason those who abused Paul absolutely crapped themselves when they he mentioned his Roman “citizenship”."
Mar 28, 2011
Patrick commented on Patrick's blog post Preterism - Defining Various Positions
"Thanks JL,  almost there...   Regarding #4)  I'm defining PAST as fulfilled in the PAST.  ONGOING is currently being fulfilled... I can post definitions at the bottom, but that should take care of any questions...I…"
Mar 28, 2011
JL Vaughn commented on Patrick's blog post Preterism - Defining Various Positions
"Patrick,   2) No resurrection today.  Resurrection was the process of the old Jerusalem being made anew as the New Jerusalem.  Scripture never uses resurrection in the context of an individual.  Neither should we.   People…"
Mar 28, 2011
Patrick commented on Patrick's blog post Preterism - Defining Various Positions
"Thanks JL,   couple questions:   Regarding #2)  If the resurrection of saints today is "the process of becoming covenantally bound to the already existing New Jerusalem,"  this would be "Ongoing"…"
Mar 28, 2011
JL Vaughn commented on Patrick's blog post Preterism - Defining Various Positions
"Patrick,   1) OK.  Wasn't clear. 2) Scripture does not use the word "resurrection" to discuss individuals.  This is a denial of proper hermeneutics, Scripture interprets Scripture.  The individual must come into…"
Mar 28, 2011
Patrick commented on Patrick's blog post Preterism - Defining Various Positions
"THANKS JL!  You are the first to actually reply with some answers (although Todd Dennis has been helping out).    A few answers to your questions and questions of my own: 1)  By N/A I was simply saying "a" second coming…"
Mar 28, 2011
JL Vaughn commented on Patrick's blog post Preterism - Defining Various Positions
"Patrick,   FP-CBV   What does this mean?"
Mar 27, 2011
Patrick left a comment for John
"John, I've been discussing my chart with Todd Dennis and he was concerned about putting "ongoing" for the resurrection for CBV.    Specifically he said "I'd be interested to see if a single IBN or CBV full pret…"
Mar 26, 2011

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Preterism - Defining Various Positions

Posted on March 23, 2011 at 10:00pm 15 Comments

In my last attempt to clarify preterist views, most did not like my split diagram approach.  I decided to delete that post and create a new (recommended by a few) one.  In this approach I utilize a simple chart in which key events can be defined as Past, Ongoing, Future, Possible, or N/A.  I would like and hope that several of you help me out here.  Simply copy the text at the bottom of the post and put when you think the event is happening or happened.  If…

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The New Heavens and Earth - A Higher Dimension?

Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:30am 6 Comments

[NOTE: This article is Hypothetical.  In the notes I've added scriptures why MAY support a New Earth that envelops the old.  I will keep studying the issue further].

 

In my last article, “The New Heavens and Earth,” I theorized that

  • IF the New Earth already exists (per Full Preterism - IBD), and
  • IF the resurrected Israelites were regathered to the land of the fathers (Eze 37:25),
  • THEN the New Earth must somehow…
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The New Heavens and Earth - an IBD Perspective

Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:30am 39 Comments

[NOTE: This article is Hypothetical.  In the notes I've added scriptures why MAY support a New Earth that envelops the old.  I will keep studying the issue further].

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New Prophecy Websites by Patrick Stone

Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:30am 2 Comments

Just as FYI, I have created a couple new websites, both on Biblical Prophecy.

 

1) www.whiteroberesurrection.com - This site puts most of my arguments for IBD (Immortal Body at Death), that is we can a brand new body at death as opposed to the old body being resurrected, in one place.

 

2)  www.thepatternofprophecy.com - These…

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1 Cor 15 Challenge

Posted on August 10, 2010 at 6:30pm 0 Comments

I posted this at another site, but I wanted to get feedback / interpretations from others, especially CBV'ers. Any are welcome to reply (futurist, CBV-CC, CBV-YEC, IBD, IBD-rapture,...).



The challenge is to take 1 Cor 15 and add your interpretation as I have done below (from my particular IBD viewpoint). Mine is KJV but you can use whatever version of scripture you like.



You are welcome to criticize my view AFTER you post your own (and I will probably return the favor ;).… Continue

Comment Wall (16 comments)

At 8:55am on February 24, 2009, John said…
Welcome Patrick!
At 10:51pm on June 21, 2009, John said…
Hey Patrick,
Hope is all is going well with your treatment.I just heard about it today.My prayers are with you.

Blessings
At 5:49pm on June 23, 2009, Mike Beidler said…
Patrick,

I've been permanently banned from SGP merely because of my views on Genesis and orgins. I hadn't even mentioned my views in the SGP forum. I was banned merely because they knew I held the view. So much for grace, eh?
At 7:32pm on June 23, 2009, Mike Beidler said…
No problems here so far. Of course, I don't post much here simply due to lack of time.
At 10:50pm on June 23, 2009, Norm said…
Patrick,

I hope all is proceeding well with you during your treatment here in Houston. I live in Sugar Land a surburb of Houston. Let me know how long you will be here and I may get an oppurtunity to run over and say hi. Like Mike Beidler and Stephen Douglass I'm an evolution Creationist so if you are comfortable with those two guys we might be able to talk shop.

Norm Voss
At 6:36pm on June 24, 2009, John said…
Patrick,
Beidler hasn't been banned from here because as you know he is a Lieutenant Commander in the USN..See, i was only a petty officer so Mike out ranks me.

As far as his problem with the admins at the SGP site.. I can only surmise that using their "hermeneutics" they saw where Mike says he is " Foreign Area Officer" and also a "evolution Creationist ". They got confused and thought he was saying he was an alien from another planet :)
Just kidding of course Patrick!!!

Seriously though we're keeping you and your family in our prayers and thanks for sharing with us.
At 1:48pm on July 1, 2009, John said…
Hey Patrick,
I hope all went well Monday.I'm sure your busy recovering but when you get a chance let us know how your doing.We continue to keep you and your family in our prayers.

Blessings
John
At 1:56pm on July 1, 2009, JL Vaughn said…
Patrick,

How'd it go? We're praying for you.

Blessings.
At 12:31pm on July 3, 2009, Patrick said…
hey everyone, things are good so far. I was pretty beat up on Monday, lots of swelling and bruising. Had to be on besdrest through today...agghhh. Very good to be able to sit up again.

I'll walk around sometoday and make sure there's to a spinal leak. If there's none I'll be discharged on Sat or Sunday. Thanks for your prayers.

Patrick.
At 3:29pm on July 3, 2009, JL Vaughn said…
I'm guessing this is your second sinus surgery. My first and only in 1987, I went back to work a couple days earlier than the doc said to. A coworker asked me about "the other guy."

Do they have any word about the cancer yet?

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