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Waxahachie Texas
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"About Me"
I am a 55 year old Christian with a wonderful wife of 30 years, Jackie, and who works at the Homeless Domiciliary as a Rehab Tech in the Dallas TX VA. Jackie and I have 7 grandkids (1 due anyday and 1 due in January 2010). I spent a large portion of my adult life in non-denominational Bible churches. Have served as an elder in a small Presbyterian church and as a supply pastor.
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What is your Eschatological Position ?
Preterist with serious interest in the development of covenant creation to covenant social thinking to covenant economics and helping young families give intellectually credible defenses of the Faith in Century 21

Comment Wall (4 comments)

At 12:11pm on November 2, 2009, John said…
Welcome Paul
At 1:09pm on November 2, 2009, Norm said…

Welcome to DID. I was wondering what happened to you as s few years ago you were active on Planet Preterist and I haven't seen you since.

Norm Voss
At 3:34pm on November 2, 2009, Norm said…

It’s good to hear from you again. I was always impressed with your humility which showed forth in your responses. I hope you realize that I’m not a Universalist and am actually a staunch defender against that understanding.

Yes I am quite familiar with Sharon (a wonderful person I might add) but in my experience with her argumentation she did not present good evidence for her concerns. Of course that always lies in the eye of the beholder. ;-)

My personal evaluation is that Sharon had some difficulty reconciling the spiritual death of Adam in a corporate body view in which the Cross was of course the essential work performed by Christ. However the OT scriptures and the NT appear to confirm that Christ sacrifice on the Cross although the primary and essential requirement was none the less only the beginning of a prophetic sequence that was inclusive of the Parousia as the final consummating event of Christ work. So if the Parousia judgment of Israel was fulfillment of OT prophecy then we really should be careful in denying its requirement. Then again there have been volumes written upon this subject alone.

Paul since I come from the independent minded churches of Christ I probably have less inclination to Tradition as some of our brothers and sisters in the reformed camp. By nature we are more independent thus the reason we have had so many divisions within our movement which perhaps doesn’t speak well of us. Those divisions though are just a reflection of Christian division at large and IMO really amplify the need to examine our ties to traditionalism. Sharon IMO appears to desire continuity of the scriptures with her past traditional experience and is simply attempting to process through that difficult issue that we all encounter to one degree or the other.

I consider ones Traditional heritages similar to being born into a family physically. We love our physical family and usually we would not abandon them but we also cannot let extreme unhealthy family issues continue unabated just because of our blood closeness. This does not mean a Preterist must leave the church of Christ or the Reformed church of choice (unless they are extremely intolerant). I believe we are called to live in harmony with our brothers and sisters at large and not present to them stumbling blocks because they have not come to the same conclusions that we Preterist have. I actually serve in the eldership of a large church but I will not teach and cause division because of my Preterist understandings. Preterism theology is not the essential of what Christ was all about. Christ was and is the essential.

Blessings to you and your family

Norm Voss
At 4:54pm on November 2, 2009, JL Vaughn said…
Welcome Paul.

We've missed you at Planet Preterist.

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