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Who is the abomination of desolation ?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Brother Les Dec 11, 2015. 3 Replies

Who was the abomination of desolation that stood in the holy place (Matthew 24 : 15), Roman armies or Jewish Zealots ?Continue

Has anyone noticed King's book ?

Started this discussion. Last reply by william f. Jul 3, 2014. 1 Reply

Has anyone noticed Max King's latest book ? ( I guess on Romans 9-11 )Continue

How do preterists explain Mat 24 : 21 ?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ron Simmons Mar 23, 2015. 13 Replies

How do Preterists explain Matthew 24 : 21 "For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be," since Hitler…Continue

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Stairway To Heaven commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Three and a Half Years Ministry of Jesus Revelation 12 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. Woman = Jesus ChristTwelve Stars = The Twelve ApostlesChild = The Church…"
13 hours ago
Patricia Watkins commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Hi STH, I am not opposed to Revelation including some of Israel's historical details from ancient days, or even those events just prior to first-century Israel's times.  What I can't find when I read Revelation is one long…"
17 hours ago
Stairway To Heaven commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"I interprets the Book of Daniel as referring to events that happened in the 2nd century BC, while seeing the prophecies of Revelation of John as events that happened in the first century AD. The imagery of Daniel 7 comes ultimately from the…"
17 hours ago
Internet_Troll commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"STH I must thank you, you really open the understanding of the beast for me in a way I truly appreciate. If it wasn't for you, I would most likely still be battling whether the beast was Rome. How do you understand Daniel 7, regarding the…"
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Stairway To Heaven commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Chapter 8, 9 Tribulation before the First Coming of Christ Siege of Jerusalem (63 BC) by Pompey the Great, intervening in the Hasmonean civil war on behalf of the Roman Republic. Chapters 10, 11 Siege of Jerusalem (37 BC) by Herod the Great, ending…"
Aug 11
Internet_Troll commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Let me try and say why I do not believe the Sea beast is Rome. Firstly I take Revelation to speak the same as Daniel and if there are any similarities between them I would consider that it the same thing they are talking about. Consider the 4th…"
Aug 10
Patricia Watkins commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Hi I.T. Guy, I understand your objection to having Rome linked with every evil character listed in Revelation.  Many Preterists do tend to pile all the evil onto the Roman empire and onto Nero, who they often identify as the…"
Aug 9
Internet_Troll commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"I am no longer so open to scripture speaking of other than Israel, thus have some reservations of identifying Rome as the sea beast. I will need time to properly critic your thoughts. But as for the name, seems I have a liking for derogatory…"
Aug 8
Patricia Watkins commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Hi Internet Troll, (You know, that's such a negative-sounding greeting, maybe I'll abbreviate it to "I.T. Guy" instead.  Yeah, let me try that again.) Hi I.T. Guy, You asked about my reasons for making a difference between…"
Aug 7
Internet_Troll commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Thanks Patricia I find your explanation excellent. By the way, Jerel Kratt is the one who called me an internet troll, and I guess that is the place I roam about when thinking about eschatology, so its a good fit. It is indeed great to have…"
Aug 7
Patricia Watkins commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Hi again Internet Troll, Even though a year or so has passed since I first pinned down, to my own satisfaction, the actual names of these "kings" on the Scarlet Wilderness Beast of Revelation 17,  my certainty on this view has only…"
Aug 5
Patricia Watkins commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Hi Internet Troll, I just scribbled a pretty thorough response to your question, but will have to type it out later after workroom deadline is met today.  :-)"
Aug 4
Internet_Troll commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Patricia how do you understand the seven head's and the eight one"
Aug 4
Internet_Troll commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Thanks Trish"
Apr 5
Patricia Watkins commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Hi Boyardee, I know you appreciate precision on the details, and I do too.  But in the case of trying to put a sharp chronological dividing line between #1), the Lake of Fire that Jerusalem became, and #2), the burning of the prostitute - I…"
Mar 30
Internet_Troll commented on Stairway To Heaven's blog post Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders
"Patricia Thanks for the insights there. I understand you to imply that the warring of the factions against each other and those against their cause is what you understand as "they shall hate the prostitute". Have I understood you…"
Mar 30

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"About Me"
I have been a Full Preterist for several years. I learned about Partial Preterism from American Vision ( "Last Days Madness" by Gary DeMar ). I learned about Full preterism from Max king's book "The Cross and the Parousia of Christ" and Don Preston's book "We Shall Meet Him In The Air."
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John Calvin
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Full Preterism

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Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders

Posted on October 12, 2016 at 12:30pm 23 Comments

Six Zealot Leaders and Four Edomite Leaders

Revelation 17

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and…

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The mark of Cain was the letter Vav : in gematria represents the number six

Posted on August 21, 2016 at 6:30am 0 Comments

The mark of Cain was the letter Vav : in gematria represents the number six

Revelation 13

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Abba Jose ben Hanan said that God made a horn grow out of Cain. A Talmudic tradition says that after Cain had murdered his brother, God made a horn grow on his head (see the mark of Cain). As Cain killed Abel, so Jews killed Jesus.

12 And he exerciseth all the…

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Zealot Temple Siege

Posted on August 21, 2016 at 6:30am 0 Comments

Revelation 19

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

The nations = The seven churches represent the seventy nations in Genesis 10. According to the Rabbis, each of the seventy nations is placed under the protection of a special angel (Gen. R. xxxvii.). According to the Revelation of John, each of the seven churches…

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Three and a Half Years Ministry of Jesus

Posted on August 21, 2016 at 6:30am 1 Comment

Three and a Half Years Ministry of Jesus

Revelation 12

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Woman = Jesus Christ

Twelve Stars = The Twelve Apostles

Child = The Church (Disciples of Jesus)

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the…

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At 3:54pm on February 16, 2014, John said…

Welcome Adri!

At 8:44am on June 1, 2014, davo said…

Hi STH... that quote of Ed's was an old quote I'd saved on my computer so I don't actually have any link for it. Again you could try and chase him up through facebook on the pantelist site or any of the preterist sites where he might possibly be.

At 11:51pm on January 4, 2016, K1 said…

You said "The battle of Gog and Magog in the Book of Ezekiel was a battle between Judah Maccabee and Antiochus IV epiphanes of the Seleucid Empire in 164BC." on another site. Can you explain please the reasoning behind that and the specific chapters you are referring to?

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