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Who was Adam in Genesis 6?

In the previous article http://deathisdefeated.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-problem-of-context-in-the-genealogy-of-genesis-5?xg_source=activity, we established that the flood account was embedded in the Genesis 5 genealogy.  That genealogy ended with the last two verses of Genesis 9.



In Genesis 6, the embedded account starts with



1 Now it…

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Added by JL Vaughn on February 12, 2015 at 1:00pm — 46 Comments

The Problem of Context in the Genealogy of Genesis 5

We rarely read things in the Bible in their proper context.  Part of this has to do with the chapter and verse divisions.  I’d like for everyone to read this extended text from Genesis straight through starting near the end of Genesis 4, all the way to my chosen end.



You will notice, in Genesis 4 that we have the birth of Seth and Enosh.  The first two verses of tell us a bit about Adam (the meaning of these two verses is not germane to…

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Added by JL Vaughn on February 12, 2015 at 11:50am — 15 Comments

Human-Ape evolution vs. Fox-Dog evolution

Young Earth Creationists believe and teach that Humans and Apes from the same ancestors is impossible, yet that Foxes and Dogs from the same ancestors happened over a period of only 400 years or so from the time of Noah's Flood until the time of Abraham and Job.

It is difficult to get a detailed description of the differences between the actual genes in these numerous species.  Genes being the feature that evolution "works on" in a well understood and demonstrable manner.…

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Added by JL Vaughn on August 4, 2014 at 12:30pm — No Comments

Beyond Creation Science, 4th edition

All,



The 3rd edition of Beyond Creation Science is almost 5 years old.  It's past time to start on a new edition.



Tim and I plan to start on the new edition this winter and post the chapters one at a time as they are finished.



The basic structure of the first four chapters of the book will remain unchanged, but these chapters do have things we need to fix.  Beyond that, we will wait and see.



Any comments, the more specific the better, please email to me.…

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Added by JL Vaughn on September 18, 2012 at 2:18pm — 33 Comments

When did heaven and earth pass away?

"For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled." Matthew 5:18

If you are a Christian, but you are not a follower of Ellen G. White, then you most likely do not follow the practice of Saturday Sabbath, kosher diet, sacrifices, etc., all the things found in the Law.  Far more than the jots and tittles have passed away.  Essentially the whole Law has passed…

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Added by JL Vaughn on February 26, 2012 at 8:57pm — 15 Comments

Is there a Genesis 1 Eschatology?

What is the defining difference between Partial preterism, Covenant Eschatology which denies Covenant Creation, and Covenant Eschatology that embraces Covenant Creation?

Is it not Genesis 1 eschatology?

Preterism focuses on Adam's death (Gen. 3) and the judicial end of sin and death.  That is, preterists agree that Genesis 3 has an eschatology and that eschatology was completed in the first century.  This in fact might be a good way to define preterism.  God put…

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Added by JL Vaughn on February 21, 2012 at 1:39pm — 36 Comments

Sin Before Adam

Taken from Richard James Fischer’s book, Historical Genesis: From Adam to Abraham, Pages 26-29.  By Rich Duncan

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DEATH THROUGH SIN

A contention exists among some traditionalist that there was no death even in the animal world until Adam sinned.  To support this idea, about one half of one verse in Romans is cited: “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin…”…

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Added by JL Vaughn on January 5, 2012 at 3:30pm — 41 Comments

Welcome AD 2011 Preterists

Welcome all followers of Harold Camping.

 

As you know, Salvation ended last May and today was "The End of the Age."  That makes all of you Full Preterists.

 

We have differences in the precise understanding, nature, and timing of the events of the end, but we are in fundamental agreement.

 

The Age to Come Is Now Here!

 

Welcome AD 2011…

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Added by JL Vaughn on October 21, 2011 at 9:00am — No Comments

The End is Near - For Prairie Dogs

Nosler Bullets has an interesting new marketing campaign.

Added by JL Vaughn on October 11, 2011 at 7:02pm — 6 Comments

The unintentional hypocrisy of Gordon Clark and his followers.

In another thread, William posted a lengthy exert from this piece by Gordon Clark.  The jist of the article is that science is really a mess of unproven theories based on some low level facts, and careful examination will show that these low level facts are still only theories.

 

Clark has a much higher opinion of theology.  Why?

 

Ultimately, the Hebrew Scriptures ar a bunch of…

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Added by JL Vaughn on September 27, 2011 at 1:36pm — 1 Comment

Augustine - Whether Even the Remotest Islands Received Their Fauna from the Animals Which Were Preserved, Through the Deluge, in the Ark.

Augustine . City of God

Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library

 

Chapter 7

   Whether Even the Remotest Islands Received Their Fauna from the Animals Which Were Preserved, Through the Deluge, in the…

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Added by JL Vaughn on September 19, 2011 at 10:10am — 8 Comments

More Evidence that the Flood was local

I was listening to the bard singing Beowulf this evening and learned that Grendel was a descendant of Cain.  (The new English subtitles helped.)

Added by JL Vaughn on June 2, 2011 at 12:25am — 4 Comments

Nature of the Heavens and the Earth of Genesis 1:1 Debate - First Resolve

The debate will take place at http://livebytr.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=pmview&view=1&id=3271



The Nature of the Genesis 1 Heavens and Earth



First Affirmative by




Jeffrey L. Vaughn, PhD, coauthor of Beyond Creation Science



Introduction



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Added by JL Vaughn on February 7, 2011 at 7:47pm — 27 Comments

Was This Prophecy Fulfilled?

When speaking of passages like Is. 41 and 65, saying they weren't fulfilled smacks of futurism, but what about Dan. 2:44?



In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all

those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure

forever.



This kingdom was set up in/by AD 70. Clearly completed.



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Added by JL Vaughn on November 12, 2010 at 1:20pm — No Comments

Mike Sullivan on On-Going Fulfillment

I think this comment by Mike Sullivan hits the issue firmly, thoroughly, and succinctly. This is how we understand fulfillment , and also what we understand Sam to be saying. Kudos Mike.



What Sam means by "ongoing fulfillment" is not what full preterists mean by "ongoing fulfillment."



If a full…
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Added by JL Vaughn on November 10, 2010 at 7:30pm — 14 Comments

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Michael Bennett wrote:

Is this your official position on Genesis 1? The sea is real water (not Gentiles) and is about baptism of the land (Isrealites)? Animals are

officially the Gentiles that live in that real water? And all though in

that water not made in God's image? Please let me know, so I can have some more fun. CC gets sillier by the minute.



Michael,



I learned a long time ago that any communication I have with you would

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Added by JL Vaughn on November 9, 2010 at 11:59pm — 3 Comments

Does CC think that God's people were formed out of the real water?

Michael Bennett asks, "Does CC think that God's people were formed out of the real water?"

Actually, I think God's people are formed out of baptism. That is standard Church of Christ / Christian Church doctrine. We think of the water in the baptistry as a symbol.

Other churches have different views.

Added by JL Vaughn on November 9, 2010 at 12:43pm — 2 Comments

The Problem of Infinity

The Reverend Frost has told us that because God knows every saved person from before the creation (Calvinist supralapsarian view of predestination) that the number of saved is necessarily limited. From this, he divines that procreation must necessarily end.

Why focus on procreation? What have our children ever done to us that we would wish them to not marry and produce grandchildren? I do not understand why the Reverend Frost focuses on an end to the godly blessing of…

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Added by JL Vaughn on November 9, 2010 at 12:30pm — 12 Comments

Can Someone Who Belives the Old Covenant Started at Sinai Explain This?

As Preterists, we all believe eschatology refers to the end of the Old Covenant.

Is Gen. 3:15 an eschatological statement? Does it not refer to events of the first century? Does it not refer to events at the end of the Old Covenant?

How can a statement about the end off the Old Covenant be made before the Old Covenant even started? Before there was even a reference to the Old Covenant?

Added by JL Vaughn on November 8, 2010 at 6:51pm — 4 Comments

Who's jumping on bandwagons?

An interesting note from The Reverend Frost.



And, now, everyone is trying to jump on the bandwagon of "oh, hey, wait, we believe in ongoing fulfillment, we believe in the effects of the kingdom! Sure, the Gospel has cultural implications! Read chapter 21

of BCS! Hey, Jeff, Tim, John, I have read it.



Unbelievable that this… Continue

Added by JL Vaughn on November 4, 2010 at 7:32pm — 3 Comments

Events

Forum

The parousia and judgment of nations

Started by Boyardee in Eschatology. Last reply by Stephens Bubble Jan 31. 12 Replies

Preterist Networking

Started by Judy Peterson in Prayer Requests. Last reply by John Aug 8, 2016. 17 Replies

Online Teaching Elders

Started by Eohn Rhodes in Eschatology. Last reply by Doug Dec 22, 2015. 4 Replies

Who is the abomination of desolation ?

Started by Stairway To Heaven in Eschatology. Last reply by Brother Les Dec 11, 2015. 3 Replies

Divine council

Started by Sharon Q in Eschatology. Last reply by Sharon Q Oct 3, 2015. 5 Replies

Marriage and Divorce Motif Between God and Israel

Started by Andrew Reish in Eschatology. Last reply by Brother Les Jul 5, 2015. 5 Replies

Millennium

Started by Mark Baker in Eschatology. Last reply by Boyardee May 4, 2015. 48 Replies

Fulfilled prophecies of Jesus

Started by joy sung in Eschatology Mar 22, 2015. 0 Replies

The End of the Old Covenat

Started by Boyardee in Eschatology. Last reply by Boyardee Jan 21, 2015. 60 Replies

The Day of Atonement

Started by K1 in Eschatology. Last reply by K1 Apr 25, 2015. 9 Replies

Resurrection of the wicked

Started by Ron McAnally in Eschatology. Last reply by Stephens Bubble Jan 29. 23 Replies

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