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I am sure someone has developed this more than I have but here is a thought.

 

Isaiah 29 with the famous "Potter has authority over the clay" is cited by Paul in Romans 9...

 

In both instances the context is Israel...

 

Gen. 2:7 "God formed man out of the dust of the ground".

 

I was listening to Josephus today. He mentions that the name "Adam" had to do with a red color of the earth that he was made out of, like the clay that is mentioned elsewhere in Scripture.

 

More evidence of Covenant Creation...?

 

Adam is Israel?

 

 

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Comment by Ron Wright on June 6, 2011 at 12:24am
What a great connection. Thanks Micah.
Comment by The Prophet Whiteboy on June 6, 2011 at 1:55am
Good stuff
Comment by The Prophet Whiteboy on June 6, 2011 at 2:00am

Something else that*may* go with this, Genesis 5

1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

 2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Comment by JL Vaughn on June 6, 2011 at 9:47am

John,

 

The passage is subject to a common mistranslation.

 

1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created Adam, in the likeness of God made he him;

 2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Comment by Charles Shank on June 6, 2011 at 10:23am
I agree, Micah; I did several studies on the first three chapters of Genesis a couple years ago; you might find them interesting!:)
Comment by JL Vaughn on June 6, 2011 at 10:51am

Micah,

 

Little observations like this one thrown can and should dash many modern interpretations to pieces.

 

Jer.18:6 "He said, “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the LORD. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel."

 

Rom. 9:19-23 "19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?
22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?"

 

Thanks

Comment by Micah Martin on June 6, 2011 at 8:24pm

Thanks for the comments. I would love to really study this further. I guess I will add it to my winter study list. 

 

The main point though is that understanding the covenant context just unlocks the Bible in so many ways. Here I am just washing windows listening to Alan Bondar and then Josephus and all of these connections literally jump out at me. Pretty neat stuff.

Comment by Charles Shank on June 6, 2011 at 8:35pm
Yes; understanding the covenant context really does make a lot of difference: praise God for revealing this to 'babes'!:)
Comment by Tim Martin on June 6, 2011 at 11:34pm

Then there is Hosea 4:3. Does that look familiar to anyone?

 

It seems that, in the prophet's mind, Israel (Northen Kingdom) had failed to shepherd all of creation. (hint, hint: Think Adam.) The result of their apostasy is a "withering" or "dying" of the entire creation around them which God had made in the beginning.

 

At least that is how it appears to me, as I mentioned in passing in my recent sermon from Hosea...

 

Tim Martin

www.BeyondCreationScience.com

 

P.S. Nice catch, Micah. James Jordan offered some comments in precisely the same direction in his commentary on Daniel.

 

My initial thought was "Ah, Shucks! You mean that passage isn't about individual predestination and election!" I'm thinking this insight is a bit more radical than you even realize...

Comment by John on June 12, 2011 at 2:04am

Adam is Israel and if Israel was chosen...from what?

Isa 41:8  But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen,

Deu 7:6  "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.

Sure solves the problem of where Cain got his wife from.

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