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And it Came to Pass, published by Canon Press, Moscow, ID, 1993

I'm wondering if anyone else has looked closely at this book published about 20 years ago by Canon Press in Moscow, Idaho? It's a real treat. Lots of great preterist explanation and detail. I highly recommend it.

The full title is: And it Came to Pass - The Third Annual C.E.F. Symposium: Preterism. R.C. Sproul wrote the Foreword.

What I find to be most remarkable about this book is that it appears to me that Canon Press, back in 1993, actually published some full-preterist material!

Chapter 4 is titled "Apocalypse Then: The Historical Doctrines of Matthew 24." I could be mistaken, but it sure looks to me like their published book teaches plainly that the Second Coming of Christ was fulfilled by AD 70.

Click here to see the relevant excerpts:

And it Came to Pass

Does anyone else find this to be ironic? Am I missing something?

Tim Martin

BeyondCreationScience.com

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Comment by John on January 15, 2013 at 6:33pm

Tim,

Dave Green wrote a review on this book back in 1994.

Comment by Tim Martin on January 15, 2013 at 7:03pm

John,

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. It's pretty accurate.

I recently had some interaction with a congregation that is part of the Moscow group. They pretty much dismissed me as a heretic over my eschatology, which is fine. I expected it.

If I had known before that meeting, I would have pointed out that Canon Press published a book that taught the Second Coming was fulfilled in AD 70, so it is history, not eschatology. That's pretty blatant. Not sure what they would do with that interesting historical detail regarding Canon Press.

I especially like the book's opening comments regarding "sola scriptura." These individuals rejected that model for some kind of creedal authoritarianism. At least I could have showed them that I was following exactly what Canon Press used to teach.

What could have been.

Blessings,

Tim

Comment by Dustin Curlee on January 22, 2013 at 1:30pm

Tim,

You might find it interesting that I was banned from being allowed to ask questions in a public forum of Doug Wilson's.

Here's the short (kind of) of the long:

I was an "elder" in a church in San Antonio. We had some folks pass out tracts with charts before "Church" one Sunday. I politely asked if they could not pass them out since our fellowship took no stance on eschatology, respectively. We just didn't know anything about it at all. They left the Church saying that we weren't teaching the Gospel if we weren't teaching the rapture. Seriously!

That launched me on my study of eschatology back in 2005. As I progressed in study I saw Partial Preterism clearly. This is when I was talking with Doug Wilson and everyone in his forum. And as I asked honest questions regarding the text, I was told (verbatim), "You need to be careful. The road you are on is leading you to heterodoxy." I had to look that word up at the time.

Once I looked it up, I came back and asked why a search of the Scriptures would make me heterodox. That was the first time I was called a heretic, and I didn't even know what Full Preterism was. I wasn't even an adherent of FP at this time. However, as soon as it was seen that I would not acquiesce to the intimidation, I was banned from the forum.

Interesting, huh?

Dustin...

Comment by Tim Martin on January 22, 2013 at 9:05pm

Yes it is. I have a long history, too. Way too long to share here. But I know exactly what you are talking about.

Thanks,


Tim Martin

Comment by Doug on January 30, 2013 at 9:35am

I think it would be helpful to all if we just shared our stories. It might help us see that we aren't alone in being "persecuted"

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