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“II Corinthians 5, Part III” By Sam Frost

I'm reposting again an article from Sam Frost that I posted over three years ago that speaks to the issue of Romans 5-8 and delves into the Corporate Body concept. There are also a multitude of discussions that follow this post that one may find interesting.  click the link at the bottom and it will take you to the full original post and discussion.

 

“II Corinthians 5, Part III” By Sam Frost

Posted by Norm on January 26, 2011 at 6:30pm

 

I have been speaking lately about Romans 5-8 concerning “the sin” and “the death”  and “the Law” found discussed extensively there.  I dug up a discussion where Sam Frost 7 years ago lays out some important aspects of those attributes.  I want to provide his piece as background info to begin a discussion here concerning what I consider the proper application of the Corporate Body understanding of Israel beginning with Adam. I will be adding some post to this and encourage all to read and post their thoughts as we go along.

 You can also go to the link at PlanetPreterist and read the comments made when Sam posted this in 2004

 Here is the link.

 http://planetpreterist.com/content/ii-corinthians-5-part-iii

 

“II Corinthians 5, Part III” By Sam Frost

 R. Beiringer is one of many commentators that show the comparison between Paul’s Romerbrief and Corinthians. Specifically, Ro 5.11, just before Paul gives midrash on Genesis 2-3 (5.12-21), which states, “And not only so, but we are also boasting in God, through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom now we did receive the reconciliation” (Young’s Literal). Notice the article: “the reconciliation.” R. Beiringer is one of many commentators that show the comparison between Paul’s Romerbrief and Corinthians. Specifically, Ro 5.11, just before Paul gives midrash on Genesis 2-3 (5.12-21), which states, “And not only so, but we are also boasting in God, through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom now we did receive the reconciliation” (Young’s Literal). Notice the article: “the reconciliation.” This is the eschatological reconciliation of all things to God through Christ. Ro 5.12 then reads, “because of this, even as through one man the sin did enter into the world, and through the sin the death; and thus to all men the death did pass through, for that all did sin” (YLT). When Paul mentions the reconciliation, he immediately goes into the reason for the need for reconciliation: Adam’s breaking of Torah. This links the two together: Adam produced alienation, but the “last man” has produced reconciliation. What the first man undid, God re-did “in Christ.”

 

Beiringer states, “God’s initiative in Christ had, through the elimination of the sin and its destructive consequences in the world, healed the separation, and by that made reconciliation possible” (my translation from the German text, 2 Korinther 5,19a und die Versohnung der Welt, Studies on 2 Corinthians, Bierlanger and Lambrecht, Bibliotheca Ephemeridum Theologicarum Lovaniensium, CXII, 1994, 429-459). This is, in a nutshell, the summing up of preterist eschatology. There is no more greater glory, no more greater thing to expect, no more greater status to have and no more greater position to obtain with God in Christ than this. If the reader fails to understand the glory of what has been done in Christ and, as a result, where you stand right now before God, then the reader has failed to grasp the fullness of what God accomplished in Christ. It is for that reason that any theology that advocates a “more later” perspective necessarily denigrates the “already fully” accomplishment of Christ.

To read this post in full  and the numerous discussion go to this link here

http://deathisdefeated.ning.com/profiles/blogs/ii-corinthians-5-par...

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