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Is It "First Day of the Week" or "One of the Sabbaths"?

This is a wonderful and scholarly article identifying resurrection day. 

http://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/540-first-day-of-week-versus-on...

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Comment by Internet_Troll on January 5, 2015 at 1:34am

Interesting write and read indeed, raising many areas of study but far from conclusive.

Regarding astronomy, it has been convincingly argued that Jesus was born in 1BC, the Bible tells us He started His ministry at around 30, we are told His ministry was about 3,5 years and we know a solar eclipse that occurred in line with the timing of His crucifixion occurred in 33AD. This thus tends to militate against 31AD as the year of our Lord's death and the consequent implications on the day He died.

The author seems to have an axe to grind with Constantine but Constantine neither initiated Sunday meetings for Christians nor did he invent the tradition that Jesus rose on Sunday. These traditions go as far back as Christianity can be traced. There is absolutely no record of these being introduced into Christianity, there are always a part of it. There would thus be need to explain historically where these traditions came from i.e. Sunday resurrection and Sunday meetings.

The article passes by in silence the inclusive mode of counting i.e. its today, tomorrow then the 3rd day, as such having another day in between would make Jesus rise on the 4th day rather than the 3rd.

It also just doesn't sound proper to me to say either Jesus rose on one of the Sabbaths or set aside money on every one of the Sabbaths. It seems better to say Jesus rose on the Sabbath or set aside money on every Sabbath. I simply don't find any sense in "one of the Sabbaths"

But interesting article indeed!

Comment by Eohn Rhodes on January 7, 2015 at 8:36am

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Comment by Eohn Rhodes on January 7, 2015 at 8:42am

Jesus is Risen 

I agree with you that the phrase "one of the Sabbaths" sounds awkward  to us. I tried to post my response but it didn't post. I will get back with you later.

Comment by Eohn Rhodes on January 17, 2015 at 7:07am

Jesus Is Risen,

Regarding the phrase 'one of the sabbaths' sounding awkward. Here is the link to my response:

http://www.thebettercovenant.org

Comment by Internet_Troll on January 17, 2015 at 9:45am

Eohn,

I read your explanation but do not find it sufficient. The reason why I have difficulty with "one of the Sabbaths" is because it does not tell us which one. I would expect reference to Jesus' resurrection to be specific as to when exactly it happened rather than just on one of many. Just saying.

Is this phrase "one of the Sabbaths" only in the new testament or there is some other occurrence of phrase so we can better see what it meant at that time. If it is unique to the new testament, that for me, becomes even more tricky.  

Comment by Eohn Rhodes on January 18, 2015 at 5:29pm

Jesus Is Risen, It is puzzling to me too. Why does Mark 16:9 specify "the first sabbath" following so closely after Mark 16:2 that just generally called resurrection day "one of the sabbaths"? I was hoping 'one of the sabbaths' was some kind of first century reference to the general octave of sabbaths in the Feast of Weeks.

Some are saying these phrases are idioms that really mean, 'first day of the week' and are anything but a sabbath. This is even more tricky to me.

So now what do I do with Luke 6:1 when it specifies, "the second first sabbath"? Is this really an idiomatic reference to a second Sunday? The Pharisees were concerned with the disciples eating the first fruits of grain which were supposed to go to the priests that day. Jesus reminds them of Davids men who ate what belonged to the priests. Jesus would Himself be the first fruit of new covenant souls and Lord of the sabbath on that very day. The first sabbath in that holiday season was possibly the passover high sabbath, Making the first seventh-day sabbath the second first sabbath because it was the first of the eight in the count toward Pentecost. 

So is the idiomatic expression of the first day of the week as 'one of the sabbaths' or 'the first sabbath' only in the new testament? The counting of the seven sabbaths after the (second) first sabbath is in Leviticus 23:15-16. This could be an old testament reference to the octave of sabbaths referred to generally as "one of the sabbaths".

Comment by Brother Les on January 18, 2015 at 7:35pm

The Feasts of The Lord were considered to be High Holy Days and there by 'Sabbaths'. Resurrection Sunday was one of those Feasts of The Lords.... First Fruits.... it lands the next day after the Weekly Sabbath day.

Comment by Eohn Rhodes on January 18, 2015 at 8:02pm

Brother Les'

 In my opinion they added the word after to the text, so First Fruits was really on a seventh-day sabbath.

Comment by Eohn Rhodes on January 18, 2015 at 8:50pm

By the way, when Matthew and Mark tell of this same event of picking grain on the sabbath they say only that Jesus went through the grainfields in the season of the sabbaths (plural) and do not specify that it was the second first sabbath..

Matthew 12:1 ALT At that time Jesus went on the Sabbaths through the grainfields, and His disciples were hungry, and they began to be picking heads of grain and to be eating. 

Mark 2:23 LITV And it happened, He went along through the grain fields in the sabbaths. And His disciples began to make way, plucking the heads of grain . 

Now if "one of the sabbaths" and "first sabbath" means Sunday then "sabbaths" must mean any day of the week?

So, is the so called idiomatic expression of the first day of the week as 'one of the sabbaths' or 'the first sabbath' only in the new testament? There is no extrabiblical commentary with such an absurd idea until after the resurrection.

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