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"Last Things First" - Unlocking Genesis 1-3 with the Christ of Eschatology

 

I want to bring attention to a new book I’m currently reading.

I’m over half way through the book and I’m finding it quite useful and it supports much of what we covenant creationist have been postulating. However the author is a futurist there is no doubt but he fits somewhere in the company of James Jordan and Meredith Kline from the Reformed camp. It seems he’s more comfortable with Kline who was an old earth adherent and is thus more comfortable with taking Genesis further than Jordan does.

 

I see many parallels with his approach in his book as illustrated below with his Table of contents yet I’m not sure how much he falls in line with Gentry and others on the use of OT Law for new covenant Dominion applications. I’m getting the feeling that he doesn’t go that far but is comfortable hanging around the edges. I think it would be good for us to see how others are working toward similar ideas while still in the futurist partial Preterist perspective.

 

I will state that while he was leading Geneva Orthodox Presbyterian church he put out a huge series of sermons that are well worth investigating, especially his Genesis and Romans series. I’ve supplied the link to that data base below along with his Amazon book page illustrating that he is becoming quite the prolific writer.  He will very likely continue to gain prominence in some circles of the Reformed movement as he is only about 40 years old.  It seems to me that he has done an admirable job in picking and choosing from many of the same scholars that many of us have read and working them into a more coherent presentation. If he could translate Meredith Kline’s work he will have pulled off a worthy endeavor because of the difficulty of working through Kline’s presentations from the lay position.

 

However make no mistake that he is a futurist just as DeMar, Jordan and Gentry all are.

 

 

Last Things First

Unlocking Genesis 1-3 with the Christ of Eschatology

J. V. Fesko

 

Table of Contents

 

  1. Man in the Image of God
  2. The Garden-Temple of Eden
  3. The Covenant of Works
  4. Shadows and Types of the Second Adam
  5. The Work of the Second Adam
  6. The Sabbath
  7. Conclusion 

 

http://www.genevaopc.org/content/view/28/50/ 

 

http://www.amazon.com/J.-V.-Fesko/e/B001JP2RV0/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1  

 

http://www.theopedia.com/J.V._Fesko 

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Comment by Micah Martin on March 22, 2011 at 12:36am
Thanks for the heads up. I am always looking for good audio to listen to while working.
Comment by Mike Sullivan on March 23, 2011 at 1:02pm

Hi Norm,

 

I have read a great deal of that book and added his connections with the tabernacle/temple to the Genesis creation in quite a few of my articles on TLM.  There are a few good jewels in there.  The title itself is worth the cost of the book :) 

 

In Christ,

Mike S.

Comment by Mike Sullivan on March 23, 2011 at 1:05pm

If I recall he is a student of G.K. Beale, or at least has been influenced greatly by him.

 

Comment by Norm on March 23, 2011 at 2:36pm

Mike,

I just finished the book last night and I find it quite useful. It would be interesting to see how Sam Frost interfaces with Fesko's brand of Reformed application.  I think you are correct that He likes Beale, since he is not a Postmillennial I'm thinking he's more amillennial of some sort. He has a lot of sermons and articles on his former church website in which he takes Gentry to task for his Preterism and another where he goes after Jordan and his Federal Head theology. You ought to check it out as it gives you a better feel for him. It was really interesting to me to see that the Reformed camp are all over the board on eschatolgy.  I think what is interesting though is he is closer to us Covenant Creationist than he is to Sam Frost. 

Comment by Micah Martin on March 23, 2011 at 3:29pm

Norm,

 

I started listening to his Genesis series. It is crazy. In some areas he is right on, then he will turn around and his Reformed "orthodoxy" causes him to say something completely different. It is really enlightening to listen to. Anyone familiar with preterism or cov. creation will easily see the schizophrenia that unthought out reformed theology will cause.

 

I never know what I am going to do. One minute I am cheering and then the next I am hitting my forehead saying "Oy oy oy".

 

I agree though, this is a good resource and I would like to keep an eye on him as he develops more in the years to come. 

Micah 

 

Comment by Norm on March 23, 2011 at 3:44pm

Micah,

I don't see where he will make any progress toward Preterism as its easy to see his Reformed roots are deep seated.  It would be interesting to see if Tim sent him a book to see if there was any response from him. I found it quite amusing in one of his articles where he chastized Gentry for his Preterism becasue he was getting it from the First Century Newspapers by reading Josephus. I'm still chuckling over that observation and connection. ;-)

Here is the excerpt and link.

"Within the Reformed community the Preterist interpretation of Scripture has grown in popularity.  Preterism comes from the Latin word praeterire, which means ‘to pass by.’  This school of thought looks upon many of the NT prophecies not as future events, but past events.  Ken Gentry in his He Shall Have Dominion argues that the Olivet Discourse and the lion share of Revelation, were fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad.  How does he arrive at this conclusion?  He shows the parallels between historic events in the first century and the book of Revelation as they are recorded by the ancient Jewish historian, Flavius Josephus.  Gentry argues, for example, that Revelation 15-16 was fulfilled when the Roman army of crossed the Euphrates river and approached Jerusalem (He Shall Have Dominion, p. 425).  Yet, we must ask, Is this not newspaper exegesis?  The newspaper is from the first century, but it is the very same interpretive method that dispensationalists employ.  We find another example of this method when we examine protology."

 

http://www.genevaopc.org/content/view/96/79/ 

 

Norm

 

 

Comment by Tim Martin on March 23, 2011 at 9:23pm

I don't recall sending him a book. But I would if I knew where to send it.

 

If he vehemently disagrees with Gentry, he certainly won't like BCS. I would still send a review copy.


Thanks for the heads-up, Norm.

 

Tim

Comment by Norm on March 23, 2011 at 10:47pm

Tim,

I wasn't clear in my writing and meant to say it would be good if you could send him a book.

Here is his web page which should help you contact him.

 

http://wscal.edu/academics/faculty-bio/j-v-fesko 

 

I'm thinking he might be intriqued in how a Preterist uses very similar hermenutics to his to an extent.

 

Norm

 

 

Comment by John on March 23, 2011 at 11:35pm

Preterism and the Olivet Discourse by  J. V. Fesko 2003

"Conclusion We set out to answer three questions, to which we have provided three answers.First, the disciples asked Christ about the destruction of the temple and the end of history.It was their error for thinking that both events were coterminous.

 

Second, there are clear indications within the Olivet Discourse that Christ intermingled the prophecies concerning the destruction of the temple and His second advent in His answer to the disciples question. He answers their question in the prophetic tradition and pattern. The destruction of Jerusalem is a type of the final judgment.

 

And, third and last, Christ refers to theflood to convey that His return will be unexpected and it will be to a world filled with unbelief. For these reasons, we must say that the Olivet Discourse was not fulfilled exclusively in the first century. Or stated more simply, a preterist reading of the Olivet Discourse is incorrect."

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Like Micah I'm just shaking my head.

Comment by davo on March 24, 2011 at 2:31am
Yep John it's like I heard Max King once say... "people won't see what they don't want to believe".

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